[PREUVE] Les CHEMTRAILS existent !!

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:34:43 Universone a écrit :
Je bosse dans l'aéronautique et ça existe pas vos conneries, arrêtez de craquer sérieux

Alors une 125 avec fourche inversée et freins radiaux + position sportive, c'est pas une sportive?

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:38:01 Mavitel a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:36:02 abzooz42 a écrit :
Ouais ben justement les vrais lanceurs d'alerte vous leur rendez pas service avec vos conneries de chemtrails/reptilien/onapamarchésurlalunelol j'en passe et des meilleurs.

C'est pas les complotistes qui vont systématiquement chercher les théories les plus ridicules pour décrédibiliser toutes versions non officielle

Oui, aucun argument, donc ils balancent des conneries croyant nous décrédibiliser.
Mais c'est eux qui se couvrent de ridicule en se roulant dans la fange...

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:24:32 rivagnole a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:18:51 superdimension a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:15:59 rivagnole a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:10:45 superdimension a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:09:21 rivagnole a écrit :

> Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:01:27 Whosdabitch_3 a écrit :

>J'sais plus qui a posté cette vidéo, mais très intéressante, le débat est bien plus ouvert aux USA, putin vivement que tous nos attardés se prennent une dose de baryum dans les couilles pour les rendre stériles, ça fera moins de cons.

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Donc tu crois ce que tu vois sur youtube, sans réfléchir par toi même... intéressant.
Prouve moi les fortes teneurs en baryum stp.

https://youtu.be/AOu3DZSeh84?t=1383
Après si tu parle pas anglais...

Si je parle très bien anglais, mais ce n'est pas DU TOUT une preuve. Aucune données rien de sérieux, vous parlez de concentration en baryum, montrer moi un document, une preuve, pas une vidéo youtube, postée par un mec qui a une chaine consacrée a toute sorte de théories bidons.

Mais qu'est ce que tu chie
Les mecs rappel a la COUR (comme dans procedure LEGAL RECONNUE) les documents, les noms des labo etc...
Pareil en espagne, en suede ou a hawai
+Impossible que tu ai vu 55 minute de video en 5 minute

Ba donnes moi les chiffres, ce que ta vidéo montre, c'est un conseil régional ou un mec vient parler, rien de plus. Montre moi un document avec des chiffres. Mais ça tu ne vas pas le trouver...
C'est vrai que c'est mieux sur youtube.

La video montre la première étape et aussi la preuve que les autorité reconaissent les donnée présenter malheureusement l'état empechera la remonté de cette info...

Pour ton info:
GEOENGINEERING CONTRAILS -- What We Know, 3 pages as of 7/22/14. +70 lab reports, photo/objective evidence, logic, facts, research, and scientist observations.

LAB/FIELD REPORTS -- Normal rain is zero ug/l metallic elements, pH about 5.6.
o A lined pond (guzzler) near Redding has about 375,000 ug/l of aluminum. We are concerned that deer and wildlife drink this water. USFS ignored letters.
o Sugar Pine Canyon Creek, Redding, CA has 4,600,000 ppb of aluminum (normal soil 15,000 ppb) in upper and lower stream. Fish losing scales, ulcerous, sick.
o Sisson meadow pond sludge water in Mt Shasta has 12,000 mg/kg of aluminum, and pond is fed by city spring water, but exposed to sky (sample taken at outlet).
o Mt. Shasta City Park spring water had 1540 ug/l of aluminum in 2009. Other streams have more. Aquatic and terra insects about 20% of numbers since 2007.
o Since terrestrial insects are now very low, song bird and wildlife populations are low. Road and window kill birds and wildlife are lean, diseased, or cancerous.
o Fish and insects died in Cold Creek, Mt Shasta. Aluminum, lead, arsenic. Of 200 trout stomachs examined in 2014, 98% had nothing in them and trout are starving.
o Strontium, barium, and aluminum are often found in soil. “Dust” does not explain high amounts in the rain or snow, nor zero, nor concentration above soil numbers.
o Outside soils in Mt. Shasta area in 2007 have over 1.6 % or 16,000 mg/kg of aluminum. Soil is 13000 mg/kg (1.3%) aluminum under my house, likely natural.
o Snowdrift near McCloud on Mt Shasta at 8000’ has 61,100 ug/l aluminum, 83 of barium, and 383 of strontium, over 4 times that of protected soil.
o 2013 rain report in Mt. Shasta NWS gauge is 13,100 ug/l aluminum, 130 barium, 138 strontium. Undrinkable by state standards, 13 times the allowable limit.
o Lab reports of storms range from 0 to 30 ug/l in rain with no spraying to 13,100 ug/l of aluminum; always positively correlated to jet spraying (national info).
o Mt. Shasta samples were taken by a USDA scientist with legal water sampling experience and MS degree; he uses a plastic USNWS rain gauge on a 7’ pole.
o Samples show a direct relationship to contrail density: More contrails, higher Aluminum, Barium, and/or Strontium in water; also boron, titanate, and arsenic.
o Zero readings of any elements prove our samples are not self-contaminated.
o The Mt. Shasta city water report indicates that aluminum, barium, strontium, lead, mercury, cadmium, arsenic, boron, and chromium are not found in city water yet.
o Other states show high Al, Ba, Sr, As, B, Pb, Fe, and Mn, but any may be zero.
o Iron/manganese may be meteor dust. Lead is from planes or leaded gasoline.
o Some have higher Al, Sr, or Ba, or zero on any, so formulas may change.
o Radioactivity in rain was tested with a Geiger counter, no abnormal indications.
o Some readings may be the result of local polluting industries. However, results are nationally correlated to jet spraying, over 90% with no local factory source.
o Fibers that appear instead of dust have Welsbach elements; they are a spray error.
o Geoengineeringwatch.org posting scientists’ data after the UV report was then crashed 8 times by hackers (military?). Over 12 million hits. Debunkers only 175.
o Ultraviolet B is up 1200% of normal. UVA also up. UVB causes skin cancer and sunburn, and cell death on plants. Nanoparticles destroy ozone.
o Mutagenic effects on corn, ovaried tassels, tomatoes. Tree top and bark damage evident, notably betulaceae, tulipifera, deodars, maples. Grapes, legumes immune.
SAMPLING PH – From USDA 1983 Soil Survey Siskiyou Co. and rain reports.
 When contrails are inactive, rain is under 6 pH. With activity, pH is 6.5 to 7.5.
 The pH of rain is directly and nationally related to contrail pre-storm weather front spraying. Over 600 tests have been made, and this pattern continues.
 Coniferous Douglas fir forest north of Redding, CA was tested by USDA Soils specialists Komar and Jim Collins at 7.4 pH. He said it should be 5.5 for the soil.
 Normal acidity for Mt. Shasta area Deetz 125, 126 soils, a habitat of acidic black oak and mixed conifer forest, is 4.5-6.0. Now it is 6.5-7.5 pH in over 400 samples.
 About ten samples were taken by meter in McCloud, CA of yards, oak forest, and gardens. They ranged from 7.0 to 8.5, or un-naturally alkaline. pH papers agreed.
 The St. Francis organic garden and lawn in Mt. Shasta was 5.5 pH in 2003, now 6.5 to 7.0. Soil is 10-20xs more alkaline. The pH papers, meters, kits all agreed.
 Garden compost is black oak leaves, acorns, and ponderosa pine needles (acid), maybe mixed in grass. Sulfur slightly lowered pH, maybe aluminum is buffering.
 A pH increase is likely oxides, hydroxides, and carbonates of Welsbach elements.
 Contrails boomed during George Bush years 2000-2008, especially after 2006 and pH increased remarkably in soil and rain in those anti-environment years.
 Garden yield declined for acid-soil-loving vegetables like potatoes and tomatoes. Most root crops declined in Deetz soils, but unpredictable in neutral Diyou soils.
 Some metallic cations are toxic to biological systems, and could explain 90% loss of aquatic insect populations in 4 headwater streams. Less change below springs.
 Natural insect variations occur, but not an 80% loss, particularly of diptera that live in sediment deposits in streams, where toxic metals accumulate.
 The metals, etc. are not from China. Scientists on Mt. Rainier verified it.
 The three main cations (as nanoparticles?) cause endocrine/enzyme malfunction. They are the basis for, or act similar to, prion diseases such as “mad cow.”
 Sufficient evidence indicates correlation with neurological, lung, and bone diseases, particularly in children as autism, asthma, and in adults as Alzheimer’s.
 Breathing and neural problems increased after spraying, esp. elderly and children. Autism 1/15,000 to 1/50, Alzheimer’s is now 1 of 3 a plague in 2013 says CDC.
 Five pet dogs refuse to drink rain/snow water, but insist on tap water. Witness!
 Similarly, neural, skin, lung, cancer, or endocrine problems are now frequently reported in cats (meticulous groomers), dogs, and horses (drink pond water).

MILITARY CONTRAIL OBSERVATIONS – Observations, telescopes, retired military.
 In telescopes, contrail jets have few side windows, and usually military kc135 or kc434s. Some contract Boeing 737s have belly/wingtip nozzles. Video/pics available.
 Some contrails are multi-colored; often the middle streak shiny blue, brown, dark gray, but outside two are white. 2 or 4 engine jets, often with 3-6 trails, some offset.
 San Francisco Flight Aware says over 30 jets per day over Mt. Shasta are normal, about 100 West Coast. Odd patterns happen, at any altitude, but are frequent now.
 Heavy spraying days are often just before weather fronts, and mostly by military jets. A weather lady on TV-12 remarked on this 11/24/10 and was fired.
 Contrail jets are most active dawn to dusk. Commercial jets do not usually leave persistent contrails, but military jets almost always do. Some jets contrail at night.
 Cloud formations and combinations are changed, new, and unusual since 2003.
 Before 2000, skies were typically a deep blue. Skies are now typically whitish haze or gray-brown blue, and true blue is unusual due to high elevation jet nano-pollutants.
 In the 1950s to 1980s, a normal contrail was maybe 30 jets long and disappeared. Now they last several hours to all day, especially since 2003, or George Bush years.
 Some jets emit a ball of smoke over 5 degrees in diameter, and the contrail begins. If it were a lens of cold air, it would not be a ball, but fade in or out. Impossible display.
 Some contrails appear to have particulate matter streaming down out of them, much like fireworks displays, leaving trails of smoke as the particles descend. Smoke balls.
 Some contrails converge to a point, often over Mt. Shasta, then re-align, cross, curve, grid format, or radiate (asterisk-like) out from the mountain. Atypical flight variants.
 Two-engine and four-engine jets leaving 3 or 5 line contrails, with nozzles seen in mid-belly or wings. Military jets leave persistent contrails, usually in threes.
 Republican or conservative pro-military congressmen and USFS claim contrails are harmless. Results of certified mail/phone: no answer, ignorance, security reasons.
 Many locals and USFS indicate lightning is more violent after jet spraying, esp. width and number of bolts. The number of thunderstorms now is below normal and erratic.
 Heat of condensation in physics indicates micron-sized particles reduce rainfall. California is in a drought since spraying began, as rain transfers to Eastern USA.
 Contrail composition measured in rainfall is the same as indicated in the San Diego conference Feb 20 and in Welsbach geo-engineering patents used by military jets.
 Geo-engineers at the Feb. 20, 2010 meeting in San Diego saw D. Keith admit on camera that spraying may have terrible consequences. They don’t know.
 The military says that “engine erosion” causes metals in contrails, but won’t say more (military secret). Do engines wear out to require an extra 20 million tons Al per year?
 Solar collection panel efficiency remarkably decreases with contrail spraying, robbing investors of their just share of solar electric power up to 50%. Industrial jeopardy.
 At “What in the World Are They Spraying” in Redding, CA 12/10 a full panel of medical, ex-military, solar experts, and scientists affirmed it before over 500 people.
 Weathermen report consistent upper atmosphere conditions, but one day has 50 trails and the next day none, can one believe all jets cancelled? Where is consistency?
 Once a year, we watch two jets fly at a giant thunderhead, melt a 1-mile blue hole in it, fly through it, and the storm falls apart. What a drought-causing weapon!
 Many photos are available of straight lines, X’s, grids, circles, squares, and combos in high clouds, and in nature this is impossible; it is a weather changing influence.
 Only the military industrial complex has funding capability; a black hole budget ($1.3 trillion) and control to be able to do geoengineering at $5 billion per year.
 Mud rain in Chico, CA on 5/14/12 had 58,000 ug/l Al, 480 Sr, and 413 Ba. “Never seen it before. Hard to get off,” the newspaper said, “Dust in rainy weather.” Oh?
 We observed a military jet 1/2 mile away spraying Shasta via nozzles, returning over precisely the same route ½ hour later, not spraying (no time to land), routine pattern.
 Why would all these scientists be making this stuff up about climate and geoengineering effects? A fact is a fact is a fact, not a belief or opinion.

This is revised as new reliable observations and data are available. Phone 530-926-0311 in pm PST for Francis Mangels

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:40:51 --Haloisme-- a écrit :
Tu parle à qui tropadelite ? Je vois pas de pro-mosanto
A par si ne pas croire au chemtrail = pro-mosanto

Oui, c'est à toi que je parle.

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:40:39 superdimension a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:24:32 rivagnole a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:18:51 superdimension a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:15:59 rivagnole a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:10:45 superdimension a écrit :

> Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:09:21 rivagnole a écrit :

>> Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:01:27 Whosdabitch_3 a écrit :

> >J'sais plus qui a posté cette vidéo, mais très intéressante, le débat est bien plus ouvert aux USA, putin vivement que tous nos attardés se prennent une dose de baryum dans les couilles pour les rendre stériles, ça fera moins de cons.

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> Donc tu crois ce que tu vois sur youtube, sans réfléchir par toi même... intéressant.

> Prouve moi les fortes teneurs en baryum stp.

https://youtu.be/AOu3DZSeh84?t=1383
Après si tu parle pas anglais...

Si je parle très bien anglais, mais ce n'est pas DU TOUT une preuve. Aucune données rien de sérieux, vous parlez de concentration en baryum, montrer moi un document, une preuve, pas une vidéo youtube, postée par un mec qui a une chaine consacrée a toute sorte de théories bidons.

Mais qu'est ce que tu chie
Les mecs rappel a la COUR (comme dans procedure LEGAL RECONNUE) les documents, les noms des labo etc...
Pareil en espagne, en suede ou a hawai
+Impossible que tu ai vu 55 minute de video en 5 minute

Ba donnes moi les chiffres, ce que ta vidéo montre, c'est un conseil régional ou un mec vient parler, rien de plus. Montre moi un document avec des chiffres. Mais ça tu ne vas pas le trouver...
C'est vrai que c'est mieux sur youtube.

La video montre la première étape et aussi la preuve que les autorité reconaissent les donnée présenter malheureusement l'état empechera la remonté de cette info...

Pour ton info:
GEOENGINEERING CONTRAILS -- What We Know, 3 pages as of 7/22/14. +70 lab reports, photo/objective evidence, logic, facts, research, and scientist observations.

LAB/FIELD REPORTS -- Normal rain is zero ug/l metallic elements, pH about 5.6.
o A lined pond (guzzler) near Redding has about 375,000 ug/l of aluminum. We are concerned that deer and wildlife drink this water. USFS ignored letters.
o Sugar Pine Canyon Creek, Redding, CA has 4,600,000 ppb of aluminum (normal soil 15,000 ppb) in upper and lower stream. Fish losing scales, ulcerous, sick.
o Sisson meadow pond sludge water in Mt Shasta has 12,000 mg/kg of aluminum, and pond is fed by city spring water, but exposed to sky (sample taken at outlet).
o Mt. Shasta City Park spring water had 1540 ug/l of aluminum in 2009. Other streams have more. Aquatic and terra insects about 20% of numbers since 2007.
o Since terrestrial insects are now very low, song bird and wildlife populations are low. Road and window kill birds and wildlife are lean, diseased, or cancerous.
o Fish and insects died in Cold Creek, Mt Shasta. Aluminum, lead, arsenic. Of 200 trout stomachs examined in 2014, 98% had nothing in them and trout are starving.
o Strontium, barium, and aluminum are often found in soil. “Dust” does not explain high amounts in the rain or snow, nor zero, nor concentration above soil numbers.
o Outside soils in Mt. Shasta area in 2007 have over 1.6 % or 16,000 mg/kg of aluminum. Soil is 13000 mg/kg (1.3%) aluminum under my house, likely natural.
o Snowdrift near McCloud on Mt Shasta at 8000’ has 61,100 ug/l aluminum, 83 of barium, and 383 of strontium, over 4 times that of protected soil.
o 2013 rain report in Mt. Shasta NWS gauge is 13,100 ug/l aluminum, 130 barium, 138 strontium. Undrinkable by state standards, 13 times the allowable limit.
o Lab reports of storms range from 0 to 30 ug/l in rain with no spraying to 13,100 ug/l of aluminum; always positively correlated to jet spraying (national info).
o Mt. Shasta samples were taken by a USDA scientist with legal water sampling experience and MS degree; he uses a plastic USNWS rain gauge on a 7’ pole.
o Samples show a direct relationship to contrail density: More contrails, higher Aluminum, Barium, and/or Strontium in water; also boron, titanate, and arsenic.
o Zero readings of any elements prove our samples are not self-contaminated.
o The Mt. Shasta city water report indicates that aluminum, barium, strontium, lead, mercury, cadmium, arsenic, boron, and chromium are not found in city water yet.
o Other states show high Al, Ba, Sr, As, B, Pb, Fe, and Mn, but any may be zero.
o Iron/manganese may be meteor dust. Lead is from planes or leaded gasoline.
o Some have higher Al, Sr, or Ba, or zero on any, so formulas may change.
o Radioactivity in rain was tested with a Geiger counter, no abnormal indications.
o Some readings may be the result of local polluting industries. However, results are nationally correlated to jet spraying, over 90% with no local factory source.
o Fibers that appear instead of dust have Welsbach elements; they are a spray error.
o Geoengineeringwatch.org posting scientists’ data after the UV report was then crashed 8 times by hackers (military?). Over 12 million hits. Debunkers only 175.
o Ultraviolet B is up 1200% of normal. UVA also up. UVB causes skin cancer and sunburn, and cell death on plants. Nanoparticles destroy ozone.
o Mutagenic effects on corn, ovaried tassels, tomatoes. Tree top and bark damage evident, notably betulaceae, tulipifera, deodars, maples. Grapes, legumes immune.
SAMPLING PH – From USDA 1983 Soil Survey Siskiyou Co. and rain reports.
 When contrails are inactive, rain is under 6 pH. With activity, pH is 6.5 to 7.5.
 The pH of rain is directly and nationally related to contrail pre-storm weather front spraying. Over 600 tests have been made, and this pattern continues.
 Coniferous Douglas fir forest north of Redding, CA was tested by USDA Soils specialists Komar and Jim Collins at 7.4 pH. He said it should be 5.5 for the soil.
 Normal acidity for Mt. Shasta area Deetz 125, 126 soils, a habitat of acidic black oak and mixed conifer forest, is 4.5-6.0. Now it is 6.5-7.5 pH in over 400 samples.
 About ten samples were taken by meter in McCloud, CA of yards, oak forest, and gardens. They ranged from 7.0 to 8.5, or un-naturally alkaline. pH papers agreed.
 The St. Francis organic garden and lawn in Mt. Shasta was 5.5 pH in 2003, now 6.5 to 7.0. Soil is 10-20xs more alkaline. The pH papers, meters, kits all agreed.
 Garden compost is black oak leaves, acorns, and ponderosa pine needles (acid), maybe mixed in grass. Sulfur slightly lowered pH, maybe aluminum is buffering.
 A pH increase is likely oxides, hydroxides, and carbonates of Welsbach elements.
 Contrails boomed during George Bush years 2000-2008, especially after 2006 and pH increased remarkably in soil and rain in those anti-environment years.
 Garden yield declined for acid-soil-loving vegetables like potatoes and tomatoes. Most root crops declined in Deetz soils, but unpredictable in neutral Diyou soils.
 Some metallic cations are toxic to biological systems, and could explain 90% loss of aquatic insect populations in 4 headwater streams. Less change below springs.
 Natural insect variations occur, but not an 80% loss, particularly of diptera that live in sediment deposits in streams, where toxic metals accumulate.
 The metals, etc. are not from China. Scientists on Mt. Rainier verified it.
 The three main cations (as nanoparticles?) cause endocrine/enzyme malfunction. They are the basis for, or act similar to, prion diseases such as “mad cow.”
 Sufficient evidence indicates correlation with neurological, lung, and bone diseases, particularly in children as autism, asthma, and in adults as Alzheimer’s.
 Breathing and neural problems increased after spraying, esp. elderly and children. Autism 1/15,000 to 1/50, Alzheimer’s is now 1 of 3 a plague in 2013 says CDC.
 Five pet dogs refuse to drink rain/snow water, but insist on tap water. Witness!
 Similarly, neural, skin, lung, cancer, or endocrine problems are now frequently reported in cats (meticulous groomers), dogs, and horses (drink pond water).

MILITARY CONTRAIL OBSERVATIONS – Observations, telescopes, retired military.
 In telescopes, contrail jets have few side windows, and usually military kc135 or kc434s. Some contract Boeing 737s have belly/wingtip nozzles. Video/pics available.
 Some contrails are multi-colored; often the middle streak shiny blue, brown, dark gray, but outside two are white. 2 or 4 engine jets, often with 3-6 trails, some offset.
 San Francisco Flight Aware says over 30 jets per day over Mt. Shasta are normal, about 100 West Coast. Odd patterns happen, at any altitude, but are frequent now.
 Heavy spraying days are often just before weather fronts, and mostly by military jets. A weather lady on TV-12 remarked on this 11/24/10 and was fired.
 Contrail jets are most active dawn to dusk. Commercial jets do not usually leave persistent contrails, but military jets almost always do. Some jets contrail at night.
 Cloud formations and combinations are changed, new, and unusual since 2003.
 Before 2000, skies were typically a deep blue. Skies are now typically whitish haze or gray-brown blue, and true blue is unusual due to high elevation jet nano-pollutants.
 In the 1950s to 1980s, a normal contrail was maybe 30 jets long and disappeared. Now they last several hours to all day, especially since 2003, or George Bush years.
 Some jets emit a ball of smoke over 5 degrees in diameter, and the contrail begins. If it were a lens of cold air, it would not be a ball, but fade in or out. Impossible display.
 Some contrails appear to have particulate matter streaming down out of them, much like fireworks displays, leaving trails of smoke as the particles descend. Smoke balls.
 Some contrails converge to a point, often over Mt. Shasta, then re-align, cross, curve, grid format, or radiate (asterisk-like) out from the mountain. Atypical flight variants.
 Two-engine and four-engine jets leaving 3 or 5 line contrails, with nozzles seen in mid-belly or wings. Military jets leave persistent contrails, usually in threes.
 Republican or conservative pro-military congressmen and USFS claim contrails are harmless. Results of certified mail/phone: no answer, ignorance, security reasons.
 Many locals and USFS indicate lightning is more violent after jet spraying, esp. width and number of bolts. The number of thunderstorms now is below normal and erratic.
 Heat of condensation in physics indicates micron-sized particles reduce rainfall. California is in a drought since spraying began, as rain transfers to Eastern USA.
 Contrail composition measured in rainfall is the same as indicated in the San Diego conference Feb 20 and in Welsbach geo-engineering patents used by military jets.
 Geo-engineers at the Feb. 20, 2010 meeting in San Diego saw D. Keith admit on camera that spraying may have terrible consequences. They don’t know.
 The military says that “engine erosion” causes metals in contrails, but won’t say more (military secret). Do engines wear out to require an extra 20 million tons Al per year?
 Solar collection panel efficiency remarkably decreases with contrail spraying, robbing investors of their just share of solar electric power up to 50%. Industrial jeopardy.
 At “What in the World Are They Spraying” in Redding, CA 12/10 a full panel of medical, ex-military, solar experts, and scientists affirmed it before over 500 people.
 Weathermen report consistent upper atmosphere conditions, but one day has 50 trails and the next day none, can one believe all jets cancelled? Where is consistency?
 Once a year, we watch two jets fly at a giant thunderhead, melt a 1-mile blue hole in it, fly through it, and the storm falls apart. What a drought-causing weapon!
 Many photos are available of straight lines, X’s, grids, circles, squares, and combos in high clouds, and in nature this is impossible; it is a weather changing influence.
 Only the military industrial complex has funding capability; a black hole budget ($1.3 trillion) and control to be able to do geoengineering at $5 billion per year.
 Mud rain in Chico, CA on 5/14/12 had 58,000 ug/l Al, 480 Sr, and 413 Ba. “Never seen it before. Hard to get off,” the newspaper said, “Dust in rainy weather.” Oh?
 We observed a military jet 1/2 mile away spraying Shasta via nozzles, returning over precisely the same route ½ hour later, not spraying (no time to land), routine pattern.
 Why would all these scientists be making this stuff up about climate and geoengineering effects? A fact is a fact is a fact, not a belief or opinion.

This is revised as new reliable observations and data are available. Phone 530-926-0311 in pm PST for Francis Mangels

Tu crois vraiment qu'on va phoner Francis pour vérifier ton copier/coller?

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:40:32 Tropadelite a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:38:01 Mavitel a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:36:02 abzooz42 a écrit :
Ouais ben justement les vrais lanceurs d'alerte vous leur rendez pas service avec vos conneries de chemtrails/reptilien/onapamarchésurlalunelol j'en passe et des meilleurs.

C'est pas les complotistes qui vont systématiquement chercher les théories les plus ridicules pour décrédibiliser toutes versions non officielle

Oui, aucun argument, donc ils balancent des conneries croyant nous décrédibiliser.
Mais c'est eux qui se couvrent de ridicule en se roulant dans la fange...

Ça feed plutôt bien ton topic

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:43:17 Mavitel a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:40:32 Tropadelite a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:38:01 Mavitel a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:36:02 abzooz42 a écrit :
Ouais ben justement les vrais lanceurs d'alerte vous leur rendez pas service avec vos conneries de chemtrails/reptilien/onapamarchésurlalunelol j'en passe et des meilleurs.

C'est pas les complotistes qui vont systématiquement chercher les théories les plus ridicules pour décrédibiliser toutes versions non officielle

Oui, aucun argument, donc ils balancent des conneries croyant nous décrédibiliser.
Mais c'est eux qui se couvrent de ridicule en se roulant dans la fange...

Ça feed plutôt bien ton topic

Ce n'est même pas mon topic en fait.

Tropadelite :
Ou je tiens des propos pro-mosanto ? D'ailleurs ou je parle de mosanto ?

Et manque de bol mosanto fait parti du top 1 () des entreprises que j'aime pas
En plus je suis contre les ogm

Donc sa risque d'être difficile que je devienne amis avec mosanto

Et pourquoi on parle de mosanto enfaite ?

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:44:01 Tropadelite a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:43:17 Mavitel a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:40:32 Tropadelite a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:38:01 Mavitel a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:36:02 abzooz42 a écrit :
Ouais ben justement les vrais lanceurs d'alerte vous leur rendez pas service avec vos conneries de chemtrails/reptilien/onapamarchésurlalunelol j'en passe et des meilleurs.

C'est pas les complotistes qui vont systématiquement chercher les théories les plus ridicules pour décrédibiliser toutes versions non officielle

Oui, aucun argument, donc ils balancent des conneries croyant nous décrédibiliser.
Mais c'est eux qui se couvrent de ridicule en se roulant dans la fange...

Ça feed plutôt bien ton topic

Ce n'est même pas mon topic en fait.

Voleur

Bon, pourquoi le GIEC, expert scientifique d’importance, exhorte les gouvernements, à continuer à lutter contre le « réchauffement » climatique via la géo-ingénierie, dans un rapport final en 2013? (en anglais) http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/uploads/WGIAR5_WGI-12Doc2b_FinalDraft_Chapter07.pdf

On a beau vous mettre les preuves sous les yeux vous continuez à nier Etrange (pour celui qui n'a pas compris votre petit jeu )

Enfaite : vous êtes dès troll ou pas (sérieusement)

Si vous été dès troll je vous félicitent

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:45:35 --Haloisme-- a écrit :
Tropadelite :
Ou je tiens des propos pro-mosanto ? D'ailleurs ou je parle de mosanto ?

Et manque de bol mosanto fait parti du top 1 () des entreprises que j'aime pas
En plus je suis contre les ogm

Donc sa risque d'être difficile que je devienne amis avec mosanto

Et pourquoi on parle de mosanto enfaite ?

Oh ! Cet ignorant...
C'est en rapport justement...

http://www.nioutaik.fr/index.php/2013/05/17/648-top-6-des-theories-du-complot-les-plus-ridicules-du-monde

Ce torchon putain.
On voit des teubs dans les affiches de films Disney et le mec sort "c pas possible walt disney est mort pk il voudrait conquérir le monde avec des zizi ??".

Ok on attend l'argument, mais il n'arrive jamais.

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:42:40 AIRBUS-A350-XWB a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:40:39 superdimension a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:24:32 rivagnole a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:18:51 superdimension a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:15:59 rivagnole a écrit :

> Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:10:45 superdimension a écrit :

>> Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:09:21 rivagnole a écrit :

> >> Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:01:27 Whosdabitch_3 a écrit :

> > >J'sais plus qui a posté cette vidéo, mais très intéressante, le débat est bien plus ouvert aux USA, putin vivement que tous nos attardés se prennent une dose de baryum dans les couilles pour les rendre stériles, ça fera moins de cons.

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> > Donc tu crois ce que tu vois sur youtube, sans réfléchir par toi même... intéressant.

> > Prouve moi les fortes teneurs en baryum stp.

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> https://youtu.be/AOu3DZSeh84?t=1383

> Après si tu parle pas anglais...

Si je parle très bien anglais, mais ce n'est pas DU TOUT une preuve. Aucune données rien de sérieux, vous parlez de concentration en baryum, montrer moi un document, une preuve, pas une vidéo youtube, postée par un mec qui a une chaine consacrée a toute sorte de théories bidons.

Mais qu'est ce que tu chie
Les mecs rappel a la COUR (comme dans procedure LEGAL RECONNUE) les documents, les noms des labo etc...
Pareil en espagne, en suede ou a hawai
+Impossible que tu ai vu 55 minute de video en 5 minute

Ba donnes moi les chiffres, ce que ta vidéo montre, c'est un conseil régional ou un mec vient parler, rien de plus. Montre moi un document avec des chiffres. Mais ça tu ne vas pas le trouver...
C'est vrai que c'est mieux sur youtube.

La video montre la première étape et aussi la preuve que les autorité reconaissent les donnée présenter malheureusement l'état empechera la remonté de cette info...

Pour ton info:
GEOENGINEERING CONTRAILS -- What We Know, 3 pages as of 7/22/14. +70 lab reports, photo/objective evidence, logic, facts, research, and scientist observations.

LAB/FIELD REPORTS -- Normal rain is zero ug/l metallic elements, pH about 5.6.
o A lined pond (guzzler) near Redding has about 375,000 ug/l of aluminum. We are concerned that deer and wildlife drink this water. USFS ignored letters.
o Sugar Pine Canyon Creek, Redding, CA has 4,600,000 ppb of aluminum (normal soil 15,000 ppb) in upper and lower stream. Fish losing scales, ulcerous, sick.
o Sisson meadow pond sludge water in Mt Shasta has 12,000 mg/kg of aluminum, and pond is fed by city spring water, but exposed to sky (sample taken at outlet).
o Mt. Shasta City Park spring water had 1540 ug/l of aluminum in 2009. Other streams have more. Aquatic and terra insects about 20% of numbers since 2007.
o Since terrestrial insects are now very low, song bird and wildlife populations are low. Road and window kill birds and wildlife are lean, diseased, or cancerous.
o Fish and insects died in Cold Creek, Mt Shasta. Aluminum, lead, arsenic. Of 200 trout stomachs examined in 2014, 98% had nothing in them and trout are starving.
o Strontium, barium, and aluminum are often found in soil. “Dust” does not explain high amounts in the rain or snow, nor zero, nor concentration above soil numbers.
o Outside soils in Mt. Shasta area in 2007 have over 1.6 % or 16,000 mg/kg of aluminum. Soil is 13000 mg/kg (1.3%) aluminum under my house, likely natural.
o Snowdrift near McCloud on Mt Shasta at 8000’ has 61,100 ug/l aluminum, 83 of barium, and 383 of strontium, over 4 times that of protected soil.
o 2013 rain report in Mt. Shasta NWS gauge is 13,100 ug/l aluminum, 130 barium, 138 strontium. Undrinkable by state standards, 13 times the allowable limit.
o Lab reports of storms range from 0 to 30 ug/l in rain with no spraying to 13,100 ug/l of aluminum; always positively correlated to jet spraying (national info).
o Mt. Shasta samples were taken by a USDA scientist with legal water sampling experience and MS degree; he uses a plastic USNWS rain gauge on a 7’ pole.
o Samples show a direct relationship to contrail density: More contrails, higher Aluminum, Barium, and/or Strontium in water; also boron, titanate, and arsenic.
o Zero readings of any elements prove our samples are not self-contaminated.
o The Mt. Shasta city water report indicates that aluminum, barium, strontium, lead, mercury, cadmium, arsenic, boron, and chromium are not found in city water yet.
o Other states show high Al, Ba, Sr, As, B, Pb, Fe, and Mn, but any may be zero.
o Iron/manganese may be meteor dust. Lead is from planes or leaded gasoline.
o Some have higher Al, Sr, or Ba, or zero on any, so formulas may change.
o Radioactivity in rain was tested with a Geiger counter, no abnormal indications.
o Some readings may be the result of local polluting industries. However, results are nationally correlated to jet spraying, over 90% with no local factory source.
o Fibers that appear instead of dust have Welsbach elements; they are a spray error.
o Geoengineeringwatch.org posting scientists’ data after the UV report was then crashed 8 times by hackers (military?). Over 12 million hits. Debunkers only 175.
o Ultraviolet B is up 1200% of normal. UVA also up. UVB causes skin cancer and sunburn, and cell death on plants. Nanoparticles destroy ozone.
o Mutagenic effects on corn, ovaried tassels, tomatoes. Tree top and bark damage evident, notably betulaceae, tulipifera, deodars, maples. Grapes, legumes immune.
SAMPLING PH – From USDA 1983 Soil Survey Siskiyou Co. and rain reports.
 When contrails are inactive, rain is under 6 pH. With activity, pH is 6.5 to 7.5.
 The pH of rain is directly and nationally related to contrail pre-storm weather front spraying. Over 600 tests have been made, and this pattern continues.
 Coniferous Douglas fir forest north of Redding, CA was tested by USDA Soils specialists Komar and Jim Collins at 7.4 pH. He said it should be 5.5 for the soil.
 Normal acidity for Mt. Shasta area Deetz 125, 126 soils, a habitat of acidic black oak and mixed conifer forest, is 4.5-6.0. Now it is 6.5-7.5 pH in over 400 samples.
 About ten samples were taken by meter in McCloud, CA of yards, oak forest, and gardens. They ranged from 7.0 to 8.5, or un-naturally alkaline. pH papers agreed.
 The St. Francis organic garden and lawn in Mt. Shasta was 5.5 pH in 2003, now 6.5 to 7.0. Soil is 10-20xs more alkaline. The pH papers, meters, kits all agreed.
 Garden compost is black oak leaves, acorns, and ponderosa pine needles (acid), maybe mixed in grass. Sulfur slightly lowered pH, maybe aluminum is buffering.
 A pH increase is likely oxides, hydroxides, and carbonates of Welsbach elements.
 Contrails boomed during George Bush years 2000-2008, especially after 2006 and pH increased remarkably in soil and rain in those anti-environment years.
 Garden yield declined for acid-soil-loving vegetables like potatoes and tomatoes. Most root crops declined in Deetz soils, but unpredictable in neutral Diyou soils.
 Some metallic cations are toxic to biological systems, and could explain 90% loss of aquatic insect populations in 4 headwater streams. Less change below springs.
 Natural insect variations occur, but not an 80% loss, particularly of diptera that live in sediment deposits in streams, where toxic metals accumulate.
 The metals, etc. are not from China. Scientists on Mt. Rainier verified it.
 The three main cations (as nanoparticles?) cause endocrine/enzyme malfunction. They are the basis for, or act similar to, prion diseases such as “mad cow.”
 Sufficient evidence indicates correlation with neurological, lung, and bone diseases, particularly in children as autism, asthma, and in adults as Alzheimer’s.
 Breathing and neural problems increased after spraying, esp. elderly and children. Autism 1/15,000 to 1/50, Alzheimer’s is now 1 of 3 a plague in 2013 says CDC.
 Five pet dogs refuse to drink rain/snow water, but insist on tap water. Witness!
 Similarly, neural, skin, lung, cancer, or endocrine problems are now frequently reported in cats (meticulous groomers), dogs, and horses (drink pond water).

MILITARY CONTRAIL OBSERVATIONS – Observations, telescopes, retired military.
 In telescopes, contrail jets have few side windows, and usually military kc135 or kc434s. Some contract Boeing 737s have belly/wingtip nozzles. Video/pics available.
 Some contrails are multi-colored; often the middle streak shiny blue, brown, dark gray, but outside two are white. 2 or 4 engine jets, often with 3-6 trails, some offset.
 San Francisco Flight Aware says over 30 jets per day over Mt. Shasta are normal, about 100 West Coast. Odd patterns happen, at any altitude, but are frequent now.
 Heavy spraying days are often just before weather fronts, and mostly by military jets. A weather lady on TV-12 remarked on this 11/24/10 and was fired.
 Contrail jets are most active dawn to dusk. Commercial jets do not usually leave persistent contrails, but military jets almost always do. Some jets contrail at night.
 Cloud formations and combinations are changed, new, and unusual since 2003.
 Before 2000, skies were typically a deep blue. Skies are now typically whitish haze or gray-brown blue, and true blue is unusual due to high elevation jet nano-pollutants.
 In the 1950s to 1980s, a normal contrail was maybe 30 jets long and disappeared. Now they last several hours to all day, especially since 2003, or George Bush years.
 Some jets emit a ball of smoke over 5 degrees in diameter, and the contrail begins. If it were a lens of cold air, it would not be a ball, but fade in or out. Impossible display.
 Some contrails appear to have particulate matter streaming down out of them, much like fireworks displays, leaving trails of smoke as the particles descend. Smoke balls.
 Some contrails converge to a point, often over Mt. Shasta, then re-align, cross, curve, grid format, or radiate (asterisk-like) out from the mountain. Atypical flight variants.
 Two-engine and four-engine jets leaving 3 or 5 line contrails, with nozzles seen in mid-belly or wings. Military jets leave persistent contrails, usually in threes.
 Republican or conservative pro-military congressmen and USFS claim contrails are harmless. Results of certified mail/phone: no answer, ignorance, security reasons.
 Many locals and USFS indicate lightning is more violent after jet spraying, esp. width and number of bolts. The number of thunderstorms now is below normal and erratic.
 Heat of condensation in physics indicates micron-sized particles reduce rainfall. California is in a drought since spraying began, as rain transfers to Eastern USA.
 Contrail composition measured in rainfall is the same as indicated in the San Diego conference Feb 20 and in Welsbach geo-engineering patents used by military jets.
 Geo-engineers at the Feb. 20, 2010 meeting in San Diego saw D. Keith admit on camera that spraying may have terrible consequences. They don’t know.
 The military says that “engine erosion” causes metals in contrails, but won’t say more (military secret). Do engines wear out to require an extra 20 million tons Al per year?
 Solar collection panel efficiency remarkably decreases with contrail spraying, robbing investors of their just share of solar electric power up to 50%. Industrial jeopardy.
 At “What in the World Are They Spraying” in Redding, CA 12/10 a full panel of medical, ex-military, solar experts, and scientists affirmed it before over 500 people.
 Weathermen report consistent upper atmosphere conditions, but one day has 50 trails and the next day none, can one believe all jets cancelled? Where is consistency?
 Once a year, we watch two jets fly at a giant thunderhead, melt a 1-mile blue hole in it, fly through it, and the storm falls apart. What a drought-causing weapon!
 Many photos are available of straight lines, X’s, grids, circles, squares, and combos in high clouds, and in nature this is impossible; it is a weather changing influence.
 Only the military industrial complex has funding capability; a black hole budget ($1.3 trillion) and control to be able to do geoengineering at $5 billion per year.
 Mud rain in Chico, CA on 5/14/12 had 58,000 ug/l Al, 480 Sr, and 413 Ba. “Never seen it before. Hard to get off,” the newspaper said, “Dust in rainy weather.” Oh?
 We observed a military jet 1/2 mile away spraying Shasta via nozzles, returning over precisely the same route ½ hour later, not spraying (no time to land), routine pattern.
 Why would all these scientists be making this stuff up about climate and geoengineering effects? A fact is a fact is a fact, not a belief or opinion.

This is revised as new reliable observations and data are available. Phone 530-926-0311 in pm PST for Francis Mangels

Tu crois vraiment qu'on va phoner Francis pour vérifier ton copier/coller?

A partir de cela n'importe quel MANCHOT arriverait a trouver les spreadsheet et autres extrait d'analyse de labo...

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:46:50 Whosdabitch_3 a écrit :
Bref sur ce, j'espère que vous vous rappellerez de tout ça dans 20 ans quand ça sera un fait avéré et admis de tous les abrutis, et que vous vous sentiez tellement stupide que vous vous en tiriez une balle dans la tête.

J'espère aussi

Mettez ce topic en favoris et a dans 20 ans

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:50:38 crazy-pig a écrit :

Le 06 novembre 2015 à 00:46:50 Whosdabitch_3 a écrit :
Bref sur ce, j'espère que vous vous rappellerez de tout ça dans 20 ans quand ça sera un fait avéré et admis de tous les abrutis, et que vous vous sentiez tellement stupide que vous vous en tiriez une balle dans la tête.

J'espère aussi

Mettez ce topic en favoris et a dans 20 ans

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