Le véganisme qui explose

Tu es ecolo ?

Oui, je mange du soja importé du Brésil qui ravage la forêt amazonienne pour éviter qu'on ne tue la planète avec les prouts de vache

sors dez chez toi et de ce forum de puceaux, tu verras que tu peux te nourrir sans viande en allantr chercher la bouffe juste à c^té de chez toi.
Par ailleurs les bouffes populaires italiennes et japonaises, réputées les meilleures au monde, sont essentiellement végétariennes.
Après les puceaux et boomers croient que la classe c'est bouffer son poids en viande chaque jour, faire 150kg et mourir d'un cancer du fion à 52 ans.

Le 11 juin 2022 à 13:27:10 sweden_YES a écrit :
même des insectes un végan peut pas en manger je crois

Topic Claus

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:11:54 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:09:43 RMS275W a écrit :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:05:31 :

5) le bien être animal ok pour les élevages en batteries c’est atroce. Le reste ça ne l’est pas

Si, tuer un animal qui n'a pas envie de mourir c'est de la souffrance.

Tu ne risque pas de me faire culpabiliser
J’ai passé mon enfance dans des fermes à jouer avec des porcs, dés lapin, des veaux etc et ensuite les manger.

Quel argument convaincant et pertinent

Toi pas comprendre.
Je suis insensible à la souffrance animale.
Je peux jouer avec, leur gratter le menton et les bouffer le soir.

C’est une question d’éducation.

Sortez de vos villes de bétons

Les animaux qui sont toujours au même stade de civilisation après des millénaires

Les animaux soumis à leurs bas instincts qui peuvent pas aider d'autres espèces

Les humains famosos égoïstes alors qu'on est la seule espèce qui soigne les autres individus blessés, protège les faibles et enterre nos morts par respect, pendant que les animaux abandonnent leurs vieux, enfants et leurs blessés

Chaud

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:17:13 :
par contre j'espère que c'est clair pour tout le monde que la vie d'un humain vaut 10000x plus que la vie d'un animale hein

cest quoi le rapport

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:14:11 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:11:41 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:08:56 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:07:43 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:01:41 :

Here are some basics on vegetarians:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

Here are their problems as to why they usually quit:

Vegans are deficit in b12:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full
http://healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables (studies linked in the article)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
http://researchnews.osu.eu.edu/archive/betacarotene.htm
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1545.full
http://www.fasebj.org/content/23/4/1041.full
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth
http://empoweredsustenancnance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga
https://philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth

Calcium in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3183773

Magnesium and Oxalates
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035687

Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.o.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.full

Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479

Fruits and Vegetables
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344

This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

The Naive Vegetarian
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html#.WTTqMNwlEqT

Soy decreases your testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.ih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/

Why you need dietary cholesterol:

Very great total picture kind of lecture:

Eating meat increases testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227

Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx

Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/

Why you need cholesterol for testosterone
http://www.livestrong.com/article/435773-cholesterol-testosterone/

Saturated Fat
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.short
http://journals.co-action.net/index.php/fnr/article/view/31694

Humans evolved a specific hunting mechanism recently
https://www.nature.com/news/baseball-players-reveal-how-humans-evolved-to-throw-so-well-1.13281
https://phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-baseball-pitcher.html

Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom)
https://examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

Exercise lowers cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284
http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/exercise-to-lower-cholesterol

Europeans can probably digest fat better than other races
https://www.nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13 (also a generic good read on dietary cholesterol and dieting)
https://archive.is/HD6UZ

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/did-europeans-get-fat-neandertals

Why "moral arguments" dont matter (there are literally thousands of them but I shall target the most popular ones)

It is not economically friendly, nor important for the world to forgo meat as we have a surplus of retarded niggers on this planet.

Giant read through summarizing dietary protein
http://www.catalystathletics.com/articles/downloads/proteinDebate.pdf

Another giant read through as to why you are a lazy fuck and should move more. Very high quality, provided by the european union.
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/ehj/37/29/2315.full.pdf

misc, how to go through paywall articles:

http://sci-hub.io/

Pavé qui suinte la mauvaise foi. A des kilomètres.

La vérité, c'est que la plupart des gens ont des carences, parce qu'ils ne font pas assez attention à ce qu'ils mangent. Mais vous n'irez jamais le souligner dans le cas d'une personne qui mange du barbec tous les jours (ce qui est très mauvais pour la santé). Vous faites uniquement chier les vegan avec ça, parce que c'est un argument qui vous arrange bien.

non c'est pas complétement faux, faut le reconnaître, les vrai seules carences quand t'es un vegan déter 100%, c'est bien la B12 comme c'est dit
pour ca que perso je milite pour le végétarisme (oeuf + lait) avec meilleurs conditions pour les animaux...comme ca y AUCUN argument légitime possible
le seul argument restant pour être anti végétarien, 'cest le plaisir gustatif, c'est tout...et c'est c'est moralement TRES discutable...

Les carences de B12 bientôt, les Golems du topic les auront aussi car elle se trouve dans l'eau qu'usite les animaux d'élevage... Et cet eau est de plus en plus traités.

Bientôt la B12 sera obligatoire pour tout le monde

Ce que tu dis n'a aucun sens, la vitamine b12 est littéralement un coenzyme présent dans la chair de l'animal

La B12 se trouve dans la chair animal car ce dernier bois l'eau auquel elle est de base c'est tout

Bordel ce simplet, l'ensemble du tissu de n'importe quel animal et de la large masse des végétaux est donc causée par l'absoprtion d'eau puisque c'est celle-ci qui permet la circulation des fluides et métabolites chez l'animal et celle-ci qui permet la turgescence et la synthèse chlorophyllique des plantes, tu crois quand même pas que la B12 est une solution naturelle présente dans l'eau?

Peter un coup les végan

manger deux trois steak sa vous remettra les idées en place j'en suis sûr

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:15:55 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:15:19 CyprineDeMamie3 a écrit :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:14:09 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:11:42 CyprineDeMamie3 a écrit :
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Si les mecs voulaient vraiment survivre, ils avaient qu'à le dire, créer un syndicat ou faire part de leur souffrance

Beaucoup d'animaux montrent qu'ils souffrent lorqsu'ils souffrent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvwhUn5JeVE

Bof ils font que crier car c'est instinctif, il parle pas ton truc

Si tu frappes une femmes dans la rue elle va aussi uniquement crier parce que c'est instinctif. ça reste une communication de sa souffrance.

Et non le shill, elle va appeler à l'aide, supplier, pouvoir communiquer avec les autres et à la même valeur que moi car aussi humaine

Les animaux et les humains ne sont pas égaux

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:17:13 :
par contre j'espère que c'est clair pour tout le monde que la vie d'un humain vaut 10000x plus que la vie d'un animale hein

L'humain est un animal déjà.

Et non, toute les vies se valent, ce n'est pas parce qu'on réagit pas à l'instinct qu'on es en-dessous des autres animaux genius

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:16:50 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:15:42 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:07:43 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:01:41 :

Here are some basics on vegetarians:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

Here are their problems as to why they usually quit:

Vegans are deficit in b12:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full
http://healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables (studies linked in the article)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
http://researchnews.osu.eu.edu/archive/betacarotene.htm
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1545.full
http://www.fasebj.org/content/23/4/1041.full
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth
http://empoweredsustenancnance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga
https://philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth

Calcium in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3183773

Magnesium and Oxalates
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035687

Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.o.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.full

Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479

Fruits and Vegetables
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344

This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

The Naive Vegetarian
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html#.WTTqMNwlEqT

Soy decreases your testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.ih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/

Why you need dietary cholesterol:

Very great total picture kind of lecture:

Eating meat increases testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227

Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx

Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/

Why you need cholesterol for testosterone
http://www.livestrong.com/article/435773-cholesterol-testosterone/

Saturated Fat
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.short
http://journals.co-action.net/index.php/fnr/article/view/31694

Humans evolved a specific hunting mechanism recently
https://www.nature.com/news/baseball-players-reveal-how-humans-evolved-to-throw-so-well-1.13281
https://phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-baseball-pitcher.html

Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom)
https://examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

Exercise lowers cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284
http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/exercise-to-lower-cholesterol

Europeans can probably digest fat better than other races
https://www.nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13 (also a generic good read on dietary cholesterol and dieting)
https://archive.is/HD6UZ

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/did-europeans-get-fat-neandertals

Why "moral arguments" dont matter (there are literally thousands of them but I shall target the most popular ones)

It is not economically friendly, nor important for the world to forgo meat as we have a surplus of retarded niggers on this planet.

Giant read through summarizing dietary protein
http://www.catalystathletics.com/articles/downloads/proteinDebate.pdf

Another giant read through as to why you are a lazy fuck and should move more. Very high quality, provided by the european union.
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/ehj/37/29/2315.full.pdf

misc, how to go through paywall articles:

http://sci-hub.io/

Pavé qui suinte la mauvaise foi. A des kilomètres.

La vérité, c'est que la plupart des gens ont des carences, parce qu'ils ne font pas assez attention à ce qu'ils mangent. Mais vous n'irez jamais le souligner dans le cas d'une personne qui mange du barbec tous les jours (ce qui est très mauvais pour la santé). Vous faites uniquement chier les vegan avec ça, parce que c'est un argument qui vous arrange bien.

non c'est pas complétement faux, faut le reconnaître, les vrai seules carences quand t'es un vegan déter 100%, c'est bien la B12 comme c'est dit
pour ca que perso je milite pour le végétarisme (oeuf + lait) avec meilleurs conditions pour les animaux...comme ca y AUCUN argument légitime possible
le seul argument restant pour être anti végétarien, 'cest le plaisir gustatif, c'est tout...et c'est c'est moralement TRES discutable...

tu réalises le massacre commis pour tes oeufs et le lait ...
Si tu tiens à la morale => vegan
Si tu osef => omnivore

massacre de quoi ?

Il est pas au courant que les œufs ne sont pas fécondés ce golem

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:17:02 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:15:19 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:14:09 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:11:42 CyprineDeMamie3 a écrit :
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Si les mecs voulaient vraiment survivre, ils avaient qu'à le dire, créer un syndicat ou faire part de leur souffrance

Beaucoup d'animaux montrent qu'ils souffrent lorqsu'ils souffrent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvwhUn5JeVE

Bof ils font que crier car c'est instinctif, il parle pas ton truc

Bordel ce niveau de dissonance

Ce niveau de mauvaise foi

Mon pavé t'as pazifié khey, je vois ta rage khey mais faut pas faire semblant de l'éviter

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:15:42 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:07:43 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:01:41 :

Here are some basics on vegetarians:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

Here are their problems as to why they usually quit:

Vegans are deficit in b12:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full
http://healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables (studies linked in the article)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
http://researchnews.osu.eu.edu/archive/betacarotene.htm
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1545.full
http://www.fasebj.org/content/23/4/1041.full
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth
http://empoweredsustenancnance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga
https://philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth

Calcium in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3183773

Magnesium and Oxalates
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035687

Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.o.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.full

Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479

Fruits and Vegetables
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344

This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

The Naive Vegetarian
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html#.WTTqMNwlEqT

Soy decreases your testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.ih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/

Why you need dietary cholesterol:

Very great total picture kind of lecture:

Eating meat increases testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227

Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx

Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/

Why you need cholesterol for testosterone
http://www.livestrong.com/article/435773-cholesterol-testosterone/

Saturated Fat
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.short
http://journals.co-action.net/index.php/fnr/article/view/31694

Humans evolved a specific hunting mechanism recently
https://www.nature.com/news/baseball-players-reveal-how-humans-evolved-to-throw-so-well-1.13281
https://phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-baseball-pitcher.html

Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom)
https://examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

Exercise lowers cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284
http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/exercise-to-lower-cholesterol

Europeans can probably digest fat better than other races
https://www.nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13 (also a generic good read on dietary cholesterol and dieting)
https://archive.is/HD6UZ

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/did-europeans-get-fat-neandertals

Why "moral arguments" dont matter (there are literally thousands of them but I shall target the most popular ones)

It is not economically friendly, nor important for the world to forgo meat as we have a surplus of retarded niggers on this planet.

Giant read through summarizing dietary protein
http://www.catalystathletics.com/articles/downloads/proteinDebate.pdf

Another giant read through as to why you are a lazy fuck and should move more. Very high quality, provided by the european union.
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/ehj/37/29/2315.full.pdf

misc, how to go through paywall articles:

http://sci-hub.io/

Pavé qui suinte la mauvaise foi. A des kilomètres.

La vérité, c'est que la plupart des gens ont des carences, parce qu'ils ne font pas assez attention à ce qu'ils mangent. Mais vous n'irez jamais le souligner dans le cas d'une personne qui mange du barbec tous les jours (ce qui est très mauvais pour la santé). Vous faites uniquement chier les vegan avec ça, parce que c'est un argument qui vous arrange bien.

non c'est pas complétement faux, faut le reconnaître, les vrai seules carences quand t'es un vegan déter 100%, c'est bien la B12 comme c'est dit
pour ca que perso je milite pour le végétarisme (oeuf + lait) avec meilleurs conditions pour les animaux...comme ca y AUCUN argument légitime possible
le seul argument restant pour être anti végétarien, 'cest le plaisir gustatif, c'est tout...et c'est c'est moralement TRES discutable...

tu réalises le massacre commis pour tes oeufs et le lait ...
Si tu tiens à la morale => vegan
Si tu osef => omnivore

Quelle morale? Ces animaux sont des marchandises, ils n'existent qu'en vertu d'être consommés

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:15:42 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:07:43 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:01:41 :

Here are some basics on vegetarians:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

Here are their problems as to why they usually quit:

Vegans are deficit in b12:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full
http://healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables (studies linked in the article)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
http://researchnews.osu.eu.edu/archive/betacarotene.htm
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1545.full
http://www.fasebj.org/content/23/4/1041.full
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth
http://empoweredsustenancnance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga
https://philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth

Calcium in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3183773

Magnesium and Oxalates
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035687

Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.o.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.full

Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479

Fruits and Vegetables
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344

This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

The Naive Vegetarian
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html#.WTTqMNwlEqT

Soy decreases your testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.ih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/

Why you need dietary cholesterol:

Very great total picture kind of lecture:

Eating meat increases testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227

Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx

Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/

Why you need cholesterol for testosterone
http://www.livestrong.com/article/435773-cholesterol-testosterone/

Saturated Fat
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.short
http://journals.co-action.net/index.php/fnr/article/view/31694

Humans evolved a specific hunting mechanism recently
https://www.nature.com/news/baseball-players-reveal-how-humans-evolved-to-throw-so-well-1.13281
https://phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-baseball-pitcher.html

Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom)
https://examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

Exercise lowers cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284
http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/exercise-to-lower-cholesterol

Europeans can probably digest fat better than other races
https://www.nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13 (also a generic good read on dietary cholesterol and dieting)
https://archive.is/HD6UZ

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/did-europeans-get-fat-neandertals

Why "moral arguments" dont matter (there are literally thousands of them but I shall target the most popular ones)

It is not economically friendly, nor important for the world to forgo meat as we have a surplus of retarded niggers on this planet.

Giant read through summarizing dietary protein
http://www.catalystathletics.com/articles/downloads/proteinDebate.pdf

Another giant read through as to why you are a lazy fuck and should move more. Very high quality, provided by the european union.
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/ehj/37/29/2315.full.pdf

misc, how to go through paywall articles:

http://sci-hub.io/

Pavé qui suinte la mauvaise foi. A des kilomètres.

La vérité, c'est que la plupart des gens ont des carences, parce qu'ils ne font pas assez attention à ce qu'ils mangent. Mais vous n'irez jamais le souligner dans le cas d'une personne qui mange du barbec tous les jours (ce qui est très mauvais pour la santé). Vous faites uniquement chier les vegan avec ça, parce que c'est un argument qui vous arrange bien.

non c'est pas complétement faux, faut le reconnaître, les vrai seules carences quand t'es un vegan déter 100%, c'est bien la B12 comme c'est dit
pour ca que perso je milite pour le végétarisme (oeuf + lait) avec meilleurs conditions pour les animaux...comme ca y AUCUN argument légitime possible
le seul argument restant pour être anti végétarien, 'cest le plaisir gustatif, c'est tout...et c'est c'est moralement TRES discutable...

tu réalises le massacre commis pour tes oeufs et le lait ...
Si tu tiens à la morale => vegan
Si tu osef => omnivore

Quelle morale? Ces animaux sont des marchandises, ils n'existent qu'en vertu d'être consommés

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:17:45 :
Les animaux qui sont toujours au même stade de civilisation après des millénaires

Les animaux soumis à leurs bas instincts qui peuvent pas aider d'autres espèces

Les humains famosos égoïstes alors qu'on est la seule espèce qui soigne les autres individus blessés, protège les faibles et enterre nos morts par respect, pendant que les animaux abandonnent leurs vieux, enfants et leurs blessés

Chaud

si tu part sur le fait qu'on légitime de faire souffrir et tuer des être vivants car ils sont "moins évolués" que certains autres qui les dominent...tu t'entage sur un sentier très...glissant

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:18:46 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:17:13 :
par contre j'espère que c'est clair pour tout le monde que la vie d'un humain vaut 10000x plus que la vie d'un animale hein

L'humain est un animal déjà.

Et non, toute les vies se valent, ce n'est pas parce qu'on réagit pas à l'instinct qu'on es en-dessous des autres animaux genius

c'était sûr un spéciste

pas la peine de débattre avec les golem de ton acabit

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:18:46 ]Nuka_Cola] a écrit :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:17:13 :
par contre j'espère que c'est clair pour tout le monde que la vie d'un humain vaut 10000x plus que la vie d'un animale hein

L'humain est un animal déjà.

Et non, toute les vies se valent, ce n'est pas parce qu'on réagit pas à l'instinct qu'on es en-dessous des autres animaux genius

Si t'avais le choix entre sauver 10 poules ou 2 Hommes tu sauverais les poules ?

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:18:53 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:16:50 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:15:42 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:07:43 :

Le 11 juin 2022 à 14:01:41 :

Here are some basics on vegetarians:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

Here are their problems as to why they usually quit:

Vegans are deficit in b12:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928
Vegans are deficient in taurine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full
http://healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables (studies linked in the article)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
http://researchnews.osu.eu.edu/archive/betacarotene.htm
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1545.full
http://www.fasebj.org/content/23/4/1041.full
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth
http://empoweredsustenancnance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga
https://philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth

Calcium in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3183773

Magnesium and Oxalates
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035687

Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.o.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.full

Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479

Fruits and Vegetables
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344

This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

The Naive Vegetarian
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html#.WTTqMNwlEqT

Soy decreases your testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.ih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/

Why you need dietary cholesterol:

Very great total picture kind of lecture:

Eating meat increases testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227

Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx

Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.h.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/

Why you need cholesterol for testosterone
http://www.livestrong.com/article/435773-cholesterol-testosterone/

Saturated Fat
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.short
http://journals.co-action.net/index.php/fnr/article/view/31694

Humans evolved a specific hunting mechanism recently
https://www.nature.com/news/baseball-players-reveal-how-humans-evolved-to-throw-so-well-1.13281
https://phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-baseball-pitcher.html

Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom)
https://examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

Exercise lowers cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284
http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/exercise-to-lower-cholesterol

Europeans can probably digest fat better than other races
https://www.nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13 (also a generic good read on dietary cholesterol and dieting)
https://archive.is/HD6UZ

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/did-europeans-get-fat-neandertals

Why "moral arguments" dont matter (there are literally thousands of them but I shall target the most popular ones)

It is not economically friendly, nor important for the world to forgo meat as we have a surplus of retarded niggers on this planet.

Giant read through summarizing dietary protein
http://www.catalystathletics.com/articles/downloads/proteinDebate.pdf

Another giant read through as to why you are a lazy fuck and should move more. Very high quality, provided by the european union.
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/ehj/37/29/2315.full.pdf

misc, how to go through paywall articles:

http://sci-hub.io/

Pavé qui suinte la mauvaise foi. A des kilomètres.

La vérité, c'est que la plupart des gens ont des carences, parce qu'ils ne font pas assez attention à ce qu'ils mangent. Mais vous n'irez jamais le souligner dans le cas d'une personne qui mange du barbec tous les jours (ce qui est très mauvais pour la santé). Vous faites uniquement chier les vegan avec ça, parce que c'est un argument qui vous arrange bien.

non c'est pas complétement faux, faut le reconnaître, les vrai seules carences quand t'es un vegan déter 100%, c'est bien la B12 comme c'est dit
pour ca que perso je milite pour le végétarisme (oeuf + lait) avec meilleurs conditions pour les animaux...comme ca y AUCUN argument légitime possible
le seul argument restant pour être anti végétarien, 'cest le plaisir gustatif, c'est tout...et c'est c'est moralement TRES discutable...

tu réalises le massacre commis pour tes oeufs et le lait ...
Si tu tiens à la morale => vegan
Si tu osef => omnivore

massacre de quoi ?

Il est pas au courant que les œufs ne sont pas fécondés ce golem

C'est le cas de la grande majorité en fait. Ces trisomiques ne savent même pas qu'une poule ça pond, avec ou sans coq.