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Le 14 février 2021 à 22:26:41 Prince_Ali_595 a écrit :

Le 14 février 2021 à 22:25:22 Allah9ans a écrit :

Le 14 février 2021 à 22:23:31 Prince_Ali_595 a écrit :

Le 14 février 2021 à 22:21:10 Allah9ans a écrit :
Tout sauf l'islam. Je voterais même pour la destruction de l'univers tout entier si c'était la seule option.

+ tu fais des trucs que l'islam encourage , l'amitié , l'amour envers ses proches , tu refuses l'islam du coup ??? :)

ah oui tu vas me sortir daesh :ok:

Je vais surtout te sortir qu'outre tes sornettes à base de bisous et d'arc en ciel, il y a des lois dans l'islam ; et ces lois – dans l'islam sunnite en tout cas – ordonnent la mort du blasphémateur, de l'apostat, des hommes ayant eu des relations sexuelles ensemble (etc). Donc essaie pas de me prendre pour un con, je sais à quoi ressemble ta secte.

bah oui on fait ce que dieu demande , c'est pas toi le petit français athée qui va nous dire que gneugneu faut pas ecouter dieu ecouter MOI :)

Tu fais surtout ce qu'un bédouin pédophile mort il y a 14 siècles te demande. Et tu le fais sans te demander une seule seconde si c'est moral ; parce que le problème, c'est pas que tu comprends pas que c'est immoral : la preuve, tu préfères parler de foutaises qui ne sont que des notes de bas de page dans l'islam plutôt que des lois barbares qui en font la substance ; donc tu as conscience que ta secte est pourrie, mais tu persistes quand même, parce que t'es tout simplement trop idiot pour réaliser qu'un bouquin qui contient des erreurs de maths niveau collège (fractions) ne peut pas avoir été écrit par un être omniscient, omnipotent et honnête. Tu te crois obligé de faire ce que ta secte te dit parce que t'as jamais dépassé l'âge mental d'Aïcha quand elle a été mariée au prophète violeur, espèce de grosse merde.

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Pour ceux qui se demanderaient pourquoi j'en fais un topic : je fais bannir mon dernier pseudo avant de quitter ce forum pourri.

Allez les modos, on se dépêche.
Les cafards de la modé sont plus rapide, d'habitude.

Le 14 février 2021 à 22:36:47 Allah9ans a écrit :
Les cafards de la modé sont plus rapide, d'habitude.

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Les scribes et le faux prophète.

Partie 1 :

Mohammed demandait à des scribes d'écrire ses révélations pour lui. Un des scribes était `Abdullah Ibn Sa'd Ibn Abi Sarh. Lorsque Sarh écrivait les révélations, il faisait parfois des suggestions pour les améliorer. Muhammad a souvent accepté et autorisé ces changements. Finalement, Sarh a quitté l'islam, sachant que cette religion ne pouvait pas venir de Dieu si un simple scribe était autorisé à changer la parole divine. Plus tard, après la conquête de La Mecque, Muhammad a ordonné la mort de Sarh.

Evidence:

Al-Sira by al-'Iraqi :

"The scribes of Muhammad were 42 in number. Abdallah Ibn Sarh al-Amiri was one of them, and he was the first Quraishite among those who wrote in Mecca before he turned away from Islam. He started saying, "I used to direct Muhammad wherever I willed. He would dictate to me 'Most High, All-Wise', and I would write down 'All-Wise' only. Then he would say, 'Yes it is all the same'. On a certain occasion he said, 'Write such and such', but I wrote 'Write' only, and he said, 'Write whatever you like.'" So when this scribe exposed Muhammad, he wrote in the Qur'an, "And who does greater evil than he who forges against God a lie, or says, 'To me it has been revealed', when naught has been revealed to him." (6:93) So on the day Muhammad conquered Mecca, he commanded his scribe to be killed. But the scribe fled to Uthman Ibn Affan, because Uthman was his foster brother (his mother suckled Uthman). Uthman, therefore, kept him away from Muhammad. After the people calmed down, Uthman brought the scribe to Muhammad and sought protection for him. Muhammad kept silent for a long time, after which he said yes. When Uthman had left, Muhammad said "I only kept silent so that you (the people) should kill him."

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Al-Baidawi commenting on the Qur'an, Sura al-Anam 6:93:

"'To me it has been revealed', when naught has been revealed to him" refers to Abdallah Ibn Sad Ibn Abi Sarh, who used to write for God's messenger. The verse (23:12) that says, "We created man of an extraction of clay" was revealed, and when Muhammad reached the part that says, "... thereafter We produced him as another creature (23:14), Abdallah said, "So blessed be God the fairest of creators!" in amazement at the details of man's creation. The prophet said, "Write it down; for thus it has been revealed." Abdallah doubted and said, "If Muhammad is truthful then I receive the revelation as much as he does, and if he is a liar, what I said is a good as what he said."

https://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Sources/sarh.html

Partie 2 :

Les erreurs des scribes dans le Coran : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pqRFQGV6lejc47K0ZShmL4txbauRRlf2/view

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Muhammad begins with a scientific premise that we now know is false: a woman’s sexual discharge causes her child’s resemblance to her.

We now know that the reason for a child’s resemblance to the mother is because a mother’s egg (not her sexual discharge) contains her DNA (a varied, halved version of it).

Muhammad doesn’t even know that a woman has eggs, much less that eggs have genetic information.

Muhammad then doubles down on his incorrect science by saying that the child will most resemble the parent whose liquid dominates, i.e., is most abundant.

Ibn Hajar explains:

What is meant by uluw “dominance” is the cause of resemblance: according to its abundance, so that the other (liquid) is deluged by it, and thus follows the resemblance. (Fath al-Bari 7/273)

And Muhammad “thus follows the resemblance” to a charlatan.

• HOTD #218: Sahih Muslim 314b (715).

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/95z3oc/hotd_218_theory_1_master_geneticist_muhammad_says/

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/02/4/1578602050-4akrwaj2x3f11.jpg

Incredible.

And Muhammad says these words come directly from Gabriel, and thus are the words of Allah.

So Muhammad says the Creator of the Universe—who has perfect knowledge of genetics—explains parental resemblance as based on whose sexual discharge comes first.

Allah could have at least explained to Muhammad that women have eggs (and that eggs are not part of sexual discharge). But Muhammad doesn’t even know that.

Ibn al-Qayyim, consistent with this hadith, explains Islamic genetics:

If one of the two liquids precedes the other, this is the cause for the resemblance to the one whose liquid preceded. And the dominance of one of them is the cause for the child to have the gender of the one whose liquid dominated. (Tuhfat al-Mawdud bi-Ahkam al-Mawlud, 278)

Ibn Hajar, as indicated in HOTD 218, believes the opposite of Ibn al-Qayyim. We will see tomorrow how to reconcile the conflicting hadiths.

Science

A woman’s sexual maa “liquid” can be one of two things, or a combination: a) cervical mucus produced in the cervix, or b) arousal fluid produced by the vaginal walls.

Regarding cervical mucus, it is secreted independently of sex. It is based entirely on a woman’s ovulation cycle. Cervical mucus always “precedes” a man’s ejaculation. Regarding arousal fluid, it is used to lubricate the vaginal walls and also “precedes” a man’s ejaculation.

A woman's sexual liquids come first in order to provide the lubrication necessary for the man's eventual discharge of his sexual liquid. Applying this to Muhammad’s theory, children should grossly and disproportionately resemble their mothers.

If Muhammad is simply referring to who orgasms first (which I suspect he is), then children should grossly and disproportionately look like their fathers, because a man’s ejaculation is necessary for conception, where a woman’s orgasm is not.

In all cases, Muhammad is wrong.

I cannot believe how much of my life was wasted believing this s***.

• HOTD #217: Sahih al-Bukhari 3329.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/95ysxp/hotd_217_theory_2_master_geneticist_muhamma

Ce verset conseille au hommes de battre leurs femmes si elles ne leurs obéissent pas https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/18/7/1557022090-cr7-pink-leopardent-kekeh.png

"Les hommes sont les responsables des femmes (ont autorité sur elles), à cause de l'excellence d'entre eux qu'Allah a accordé, ainsi que de la dépense qu'ils font de leurs biens. Les femmes vertueuses sont celles qui sont dévotes, qui protègent, même ce qui est caché, ce qu'Allah a protégé. Et quant à celles dont vous craignez l'infidélité, exhortez-les, abandonnez-les dans leurs lits, et battez-les. Si elles viennent à vous obéir, alors ne cherchez plus de voie contre elles. Allah demeure, Haut, Grand, vraiment!"
Quran 4:34

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Wife_Beating_in_Islam
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Beat_your_Wives_or_Separate_from_Them_-_Quran_4-34

Un homme peut épouser une fille qui n'a pas encore atteint la puberté https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/18/7/1557022090-cr7-pink-leopardent-kekeh.png

"Et quant à celles de vos femmes qui n'espèrent plus avoir de règles: si vous avez des doutes, leur délai est alors de trois mois. De même pour celles qui n'ont pas encore de règles. Et quant à celles qui sont enceintes, elles ont pour terme leur accouchement. Quiconque craint Allah, cependant, Il lui assigne une facilité dans sa voie. "
Quran 65:4

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Pedophilie_dans_le_Coran

Combattez les non-musulmans https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/18/7/1557022090-cr7-pink-leopardent-kekeh.png

"Combattez ceux qui ne croient ni en Allah ni au Jour dernier, qui n'interdisent pas ce que Dieu et Son messager ont interdit et qui ne suivent pas la religion de la vérité, parmi ceux qui ont reçu le Livre, jusqu'à ce qu'ils versent l'impôt de la capitation et qu'ils se soumettent et s'humilient."
Quran 9:29

https://quranx.com/9.5

Une femme hérite de la moitié de ce qu'un homme hérite https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/18/7/1557022090-cr7-pink-leopardent-kekeh.png

"Allah vous prescrit en ce qui concerne vos enfants: Le garçon aura une part équivalente à celle de deux filles; s'il y a plus de deux filles, elles auront deux tiers de ce que le défunt a laissé, et s'il y en a une, elle aura la moitié; et pour ses parents, chacun recevra le sixième de ce qu'il a laissé s'il a (au moins) un enfant mais s'il n'a pas d'enfants et que (seuls) ses deux parents héritent de lui, alors sa mère aura le tiers; mais, s'il a des frères, alors sa mère aura le sixième après (le paiement) d'un legs qu'il a légué ou d'une dette; [quant à] vos parents et vos enfants, vous ne savez pas lequel d'entre eux vous est le plus utile; c'est une ordonnance d'Allah: Certes, Allah est Connaissant, Sage."
Quran 4:11

Le témoignage d'une femme vaut la moitié de celui d'un homme https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/18/7/1557022090-cr7-pink-leopardent-kekeh.png

"Ô, vous qui croyez! quand contractez une dette à échéance déterminée, écrivez-la; et qu'un scribe l'écrive, entre vous, en toute justice; un scribe n'a pas à refuser d'écrire selon ce qu'Allah lui a enseigné; qu'il écrive, donc, et que dicte le débiteur: qu'il craigne Allah son Seigneur, et qu'il se prémunisse de ne rien diminuer. Si le débiteur est sot, ou faible, ou incapable de dicter lui-même, que son tuteur dicte alors en toute justice. Faites-en témoigner par deux témoins d'entre vos hommes; et à défaut de deux hommes, un homme et deux femmes d'entre ceux des témoins que vous agréez, en sorte que si l'une d'elles s'égare, l'autre puisse lui rappeler. Et que les témoins ne refusent pas, quand ils sont appelés. Ne soyez pas paresseux à écrire la dette, ainsi que son terme, qu'elle soit petite ou grande: c'est plus équitable auprès d'Allah, plus correct pour le témoignage, et plus près de vous épargner le doute; à moins qu'il s'agisse d'un marché que vous passez tout de suite entre vous: dans ce cas on ne vous fera pas grief de ne pas l'écrire. Mais prenez des témoins, lorsque vous négociez entre vous; et qu'on ne fasse tort à aucun scribe ni à aucun témoin! car si vous le faites, c'est vraiment qu'il y a en vous de la perversité. Et craignez Allah. C'est Allah qui vous enseigne; et Allah se connaît à tout."
Quran 2:282

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/6/9

Un homme peut avoir des relations sexuelles avec une prisonnière de guerre https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/18/7/1557022090-cr7-pink-leopardent-kekeh.png

"Ô Prophète! Nous t'avions rendu licites tes épouses à qui tu avais apporté leur salaire d'honneur, celles aussi des esclaves en ta possession qu'Allah t'avait données en butin; de même les filles de tes tantes paternelles, et les filles de ton oncle maternel, et les filles de tes tantes maternelles, —celles qui avaient émigré en ta compagnie, —ainsi que toute femme croyante qui avait fait don de sa personne au Prophète, pourvu que le Prophète voulût se marier avec elle. Privilège pour toi à l'exclusion des autres croyants, Nous savons ce que nous avons fixé comme règle sur eux au sujet de leurs épouses et leurs captives qu'ils possèdent;- ce afin qu'il n'y eût aucun blâme contre toi. Et Allah est Grand Pardonneur, Très Miséricordieux"
Quran 33:50

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/34/105

Allah, créateur de l’univers, ne maîtrise pas des calculs niveau collège.

Les anglophobes peuvent traduire ici : https://www.deepl.com/fr/translator

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Allah’s rules of inheritance are laid out in Quran 4:11-12 and 4:176.
It is difficult to overstate how poorly written and poorly thought out these verses are.
When reading them, I feel that I am actually entering Muhammad’s overwhelmed mind, in which he is trying to come up with verses that can account for multiple scenarios (multiple siblings, multiple children, etc.), but that Muhammad is in way over his head and can't pull it off.
4:11 even starts out badly with Allah incorrectly using the phrase “more than two” when He must mean “two or more.”
But the greatest problem with Allah’s inheritance rules is that they result in multiple situations in which the total of the inheritance pie adds up to more than 100%. It is an extraordinary mathematical error by the Creator of the Universe.
Example 1:
A deceased man leaves behind a wife, two daughters, a mother and father. The wife receives ⅛. The two daughters share ⅔. The mother and father each get ⅙. Per the Quran’s math, the total combined is 1 ⅛. Oops.
(The comparative Sunni and Shia adjustments can be found at “Al-Awl,” al-islam.org)
Example 2:
A deceased woman leaves behind a husband and two sisters. The husband receives ½ and the sisters share ⅔. Per the Quran’s math, the total is 1 ⅙. Oops.
(The comparative Sunni and Shia adjustments can be found in Shabaz Ahmad Cheema, Shia and Sunni Laws of Inheritance: A Comparative Analysis, 77-78)
For fun, go to www.inheritancecalculator.net, a Sunni inheritance calculator, and type those two scenarios in. You will receive the message: “Total shares have exceeded 100%. Shares need to be reduced proportionally,” and the website does so through a process called awl. The problem is that nowhere does the Quran or Muhammad say to “reduce proportionally.” It is simply a method developed by humans to fix the mathematical error.
But Shia jurisprudence rejects awl, and solves the mathematical error differently, which highlights that there is no clear prescription on how to solve the Quran’s mathematical error.
In Islam, the Creator of Two Trillion Galaxies can’t add fractions.
• Supplement to HOTD 206

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/98rpd8/qurans_mathematical_errors_in_inheritance/

Paz sur les muslims néanmoins.

L’âge de Aicha, les preuves ultimes de la pédophilie du bédouin camélophile Mohammed. https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/18/7/1557022090-cr7-pink-leopardent-kekeh.png

En FR : https://islamqa.info/fr/answers/124483/enquete-sur-lage-de-la-mere-des-croyants-aicha-paa-lors-de-son-mariage-avec-le-prophete-benediction-et-salut-soient-sur-lui

Merci au foromeurent qui m’a fourni ce lien :hap:

Les anglophobes voudront traduire ce qui suit grâce à ce lien : https://www.deepl.com/fr/translator

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We're starting to see some muslim scholars in an overdose of Muslim Deception , trying to cover their Master by claiming that there's only one single hadith talking about the six years Old in Sahih Bukhari. And when you bring them tons of hadiths, you know what they will say ? That those hadiths are all transmitted by Hisham ibn 'Urwah, the son of Aisha's Nephew, they will say he's the guy who invented this six years story and he's not reliable even if Bukhari and others Trust Him.
You can see why they want to eleminate Hicham, because if they do so, they eliminate the problem at the source, all the mulitple accounts about the age of aisha are eleminated in one single blow because they all trace back to him, especially those in Bukhari, you can see it in this graph : https://i.imgur.com/IRS65ga.png

The problem is that even if we consider him as weak, the hadiths are transmitted from TONS of people and NOT only by Hisham Ibn 'Urwah alone, in fact, with this amount of independent chains, the Age of Aisha becomes one of the most documented facts in Islamic history : (the chain in sunnah.com is not visible in the English translation, it's in the Arabic part)
Here's a schematic summarizing the people NOT transmitting the hadiths from Hicham Ibn 'Urwa : https://i.imgur.com/csHkCqk.jpg

http://sunnah.com/muslim/16/83 Muslim, no. 1422 c : Aisha → 'Urwah → Az-Zuhree → Mamar → Abdur Razaaq → Abd ibn Humaid → Muslim

http://sunnah.com/muslim/16/84 Muslim, no. 1422 d : Aisha → Al-Aswad → Ibraheem → Al-A’amash → Abu Mua’awiyah → Yahya ibn Yahya, Ishaaq ibn Ibraheem and Abu Bakr ibn Abee Shaibah and Abu Kuraib → Muslim

http://sunnah.com/abudawud/43/165 Sunan Abu Dawood, no. 4937 : Aisha → Yahya (ibn Abdur Rahmaan ibn Haatib) → Muhammad (ibn Amr) → the father of U’baidullah ibn Muadh → Ubaidullah ibn Muadh → Abu Dawood

https://sunnah.com/nasai/26/184 Sunan An-Nasai, no. 3379 : Aisha → Abu Salamah ibn Abdur Rahman → Muhammad ibn Ibraheem → I’mara ibn Ghazya → Yahya ibn Ayub → the paternal uncle of Ahmad ibn Sa’d ibn Al- Hakam ibn Abee Maryam → Ahmad ibn Sa’d ibn Al-Hakam ibn Abee Maryam → An-Nasai

http://sunnah.com/nasai/26/62 Sunan An-Nasai, no. 3257 : Aisha → Abu U’baidah → Abu Ishaaq → Mutarrif → A'bthar → Qutaibah → An-Nasai

http://sunnah.com/nasai/26/63 Sunan An-Nasai, no. 3258 : Aisha → Al-Aswad → Ibraheem → Al-A’amash → Abu Mua’awiyah → Muhammad ibn Al-A'laa’ and Ahmad ibn Harb → An-Nasai

http://sunnah.com/urn/1261950 Sunan Ibn Majah no. 1877 : Abdullah → Abu Ubaidah → Abu Ishaaq → Israeel → Abu Ahmad → Ahmad ibn Sinan → Ibn Majah

http://shamela.ws/browse.php/book-25794#page-20325 Musnad Ahmad, no. 24152 : Aisha → Al-Aswad → Ibraheem → Al-A’amash → Abu Mua’awiyah → the father of Abdullah → Abdullah → Ahmad ibn Hanbal

http://shamela.ws/browse.php/book-2266#page-7423 Mustadrak Al-Haakim, no. 6714 : Jaabir → Yazeed ibn Jaabir → Abdullah ibn Abdur Rahman ibn Yazeed ibn Jaabir → Abu Mushar Abdul A’laa ibn Mushar → Ibraheem ibn Al-Hussain ibn Daizeel → Ahmad ibn U’baid ibn Ibraheem Al-Asdee, the Haafidh of Hamdan → Al-Haakim

http://shamela.ws/browse.php/book-1733#page-12279 Al-Mujam Al-Kabeer, no. 10279 : Abdullah → Abu U’baidah → Abu Ishaaq → Shareek → Yahya ibn Adam → Abdur Rahman ibn Saalih Al-Azdee → Muhammad ibn Moosaa ibn Hammaad Al-Barbaree → At-Tabaraani

https://library.islamweb.net/NewLibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=84&ID=4563&idfrom=18612&idto=19800&bookid=84&startno=58 Al-Mujam Al-Kabeer, no. 40 : Qataadah → Sa’eed ibn Abee U’roba → Zuhair ibn Ala’la Al-Qaisee → Ahmad ibn Al-Miqdaam → Muhammad ibn Ja’far ibn Ai’n Al-Baghdaadee → At-Tabaraani

https://library.islamweb.net/NewLibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=84&ID=4563&idfrom=18612&idto=19800&bookid=84&startno=70 Al-Mujam Al-Kabeer, no. 52 : Aishah → Al-Qaasim ibn Muhammad → Sa’d ibn Ibraheem → Sufyaan → Muhammad ibn Al-Hassan Al-Asdee → Al-Hassan ibn Sahal Al-Hannat → Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Hadramee → At-Tabaraani

https://library.islamweb.net/NewLibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=84&ID=4563&idfrom=18612&idto=19800&bookid=84&startno=71 Al-Mujam Al-Kabeer, no. 53 : Aishah → Abu U’baidah → Abu Ishaaq → Mutarrif → A’bthar ibn Al-Qasim → Sa’eed ibn Amr Al-Asha’athi → Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Hadramee → At-Tabaraani

https://library.islamweb.net/NewLibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=84&ID=4563&idfrom=18612&idto=19800&bookid=84&startno=79 Al-Mujam Al-Kabeer, no. 62 : Ibn Abi Maleekah → Al-Ajla’ → Abu Usaama → Abdullah Ibn Amr Ibn Abban → Muhamed Ibn Abdullah Al-Hadrami → At-Tabaraani

http://shamela.ws/browse.php/book-7861#page-15718 Sunan Al-Baihaqi, no. 13659 : Aisha → Al-Aswad → Ibraheem → Al-A’amash → Abu Mua’awiyah → Yahya ibn Yahya → Abu Ja’far Muhammad ibn Al-Hajjaaj Al-Waraaq → Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ibn Ya’qoub → Abu Abdullah Al-Haafidh → Al-Baihaqi

And this is a hadith of Hicham NOT passing by the people of Irak :
http://shamela.ws/browse.php/book-25794#page-21012 Musnad Ahmad, no. 24867 : Aishah → 'Urwah → Hisham ibn ’Urwah → Abdur Rahman → Sulaiman ibn Dawood → Ahmad ibn Hanbal
And those are not the only ones. So next time someone try to hide this FACT with some dirty tricks, you blow this nuke on his face.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/8g1rwt/aisha_was_6_years_old_atomic_blast_proof/

PAIX sur les musulmans cependant. https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/18/7/1557022090-cr7-pink-leopardent-kekeh.png

MUHAMMAD AND THE DOGS

by Silas

INTRODUCTION
STATEMENTS FROM THE HADITH
1) KILL THE DOGS
2) COMMERCE IN DOGS
3) LOSS OF REWARD OF GOOD WORKS FOR OWNING DOGS
4) DOGS ANNULLING PRAYER
5) DOGS STOP THE ANGELS
THE TOMES
OTHER SOURCES
TO OBEY OR NOT OBEY MUHAMMAD? – THAT IS THE QUESTION.
ARGUMENT 1: THE HADITH ARE FALSE – Variation 1.
ARGUMENT 1: THE HADITH ARE FALSE – Variation 2.
ARGUMENT 2: THE HADITH ARE MISUNDERSTOOD
BENEFITS OF DOGS AS PETS
BENEFITS OF DOGS AS PETS CONTINUED
DISCUSSION: THE BIGGER PICTURE
QUESTIONS AND TALKING POINTS
CHALLENGE TO THE MUSLIM
CONCLUSION
REFERENCES

INTRODUCTION

Muhammad made strange and harsh statements about dogs and these edicts affect dogs in a tragic way. His teachings may have come from cultural bias, Pagan concepts, or his own imagination, but wherever they came from they led to the cruel treatment of dogs.

None of the statements regarding dogs are found in the Quran but they abound in the various collections of traditions (hadith). These traditions are a primary foundation of Islamic theology and are the basis of many Islamic laws. They render dogs as "impure" and worse. Per Muhammad’s orders most dogs were to be killed and all dogs of a specific color (black) had to be killed.

Muhammad claimed to be a prophet of God and as such his word was to be obeyed. With the teeth of Islam biting worldwide it is vital that Muhammad’s teachings be scrutinized to determine if he were a nut or a prophet.

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STATEMENTS FROM THE HADITH

Below are a number of Hadith on various aspects involving dogs. All Hadith are from the Sahih collections of Bukhari[1] and Muslim[2], or the Sunan of Abu Dawud[3]. After the Quran, Bukhari's set of Hadith are regarded to be the second most important books in Islam, followed closely by the Hadith of Muslim. I quote from these sources to prove that these Hadith are not just a few isolated or unsupported cases. I have sorted Muhammad's statements concerning dogs into 5 categories. All of these illustrate different facets of his beliefs regarding dogs.

1) KILL THE DOGS

From Bukhari Vol. 4, #540

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed.

From Abu Dawud #2839

Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.

The Hadith's note for #2839 says, "The prophet did not order the killing of all the dogs, for some are to be retained for hunting and watching. He ordered to kill the jet black ones. They might be more mischievous among them.

From Muslim #3814

Ibn Mughaffal reported: Allah's messenger ordered the killing of dogs and then said, "what is the trouble with them (the people of Medina? How dogs are nuisances to them (the citizens of Medina)? He then permitted keeping of dogs for hunting and (the protection of) herds. ...[and for] for the protection of cultivated land.

From Muslim #Number 055

Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time.

From Muslim #3813

Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah's messenger ordered us to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah's apostle forbade their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil.

The note for #3814 says,

"The Hadith gives us an idea why the prophet commanded to kill dogs. There must have been an excess of stray dogs and thus the danger of rabies in the city of Medina and its suburbs. The prophet therefore ordered to kill them. Later on when it was found that his Companions were killing them indiscriminately, he forbade them to do so and told them that only the ferocious beasts which were a source of danger to life should be killed. The word "Devil" in the Hadith clarifies this point. Here devil stands for ferocious.

HOWEVER THE REASONING WITHIN THE NOTE ABOVE IS INCORRECT – READ BELOW.

From Muslim #5248

Maimuna reported that one morning Allah’s Messenger was silent with grief. Maimuna said: Allah’s Messenger, I find a change in your mood today. Allah’s Messenger said: Gabriel had promised me that he would meet me tonight, but he did not meet me. By Allah, he never broke his promises, and Allah’s Messenger spent the day in this sad mood. Then it occurred to him that there had been a puppy under their cot. He commanded and it was turned out. He then took some water in his hand and sprinkled it at that place. When it was evening Gabriel met him and he said to him: You promised me that you would meet me the previous night. He said: Yes, but we do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture. Then on that very morning he commanded the killing of the dogs until he announced that the dog kept for the orchards should also be killed, but he spared the dog meant for the protection of extensive fields or big gardens.

COMMENT

These Hadith tell the story of Muhammad's order to kill dogs. Muhammad said he would like to have all dogs killed. He wanted them killed, NOT because packs of dogs were tormenting the citizens of Medina, but rather, because a puppy stopped the mighty angel Gabriel. Muhammad’s solution was to kill the dogs. He first said he wanted all dogs killed but then made exceptions for dogs that are used for farming, hunting, or watching (outside). Further, he ordered that all black dogs be killed and called them "a Satan".

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2) COMMERCE IN DOGS

From Bukhari Vol. 3, #299

Narrated 'Aun bin Abu Juhaifa: "My father bought a slave who practiced the profession of cupping. (My father broke the slave's instruments of cupping). I asked my father why he had done so. He replied, "The Prophet forbade the acceptance of the price of a dog or blood, and also forbade the profession of tattooing, getting tattooed and receiving or giving Riba, (usury), and cursed the picture-makers."

From Bukhari Vol. 3, #482

Narrated Abu Mas'ud Al-Ansari: "Allah's Apostle regarded illegal the price of a dog, the earnings of a prostitute, and the charges taken by a soothsayer."

From Muslim #3803

Abu Masud reported that Allah's messenger forbade the charging of price of the dog and earning of a prostitute and sweets offered to a kahin.

COMMENT

Muhammad believed that money made from the sale of a dog (for other than already mentioned purposes) was considered as evil as the money made from prostitution, witchcraft, or usury. Something about dogs disturbed Muhammad deeply.

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3) LOSS OF REWARD OF GOOD WORKS FOR OWNING DOGS

From Bukhari Vol. 3, #515

Narrated Abu Huraira: "Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily, unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle." Abu Huraira (in another narration) said from the Prophet, "unless it is used for guarding sheep or farms, or for hunting." Narrated Abu Hazim from Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A dog for guarding cattle or for hunting.""

From Muslim Number 3815:

Ibn Umar reported Allah's Messenger as saying: He who keeps a dog other than that meant for watching the herd or for hunting loses every day out of his deeds equal to two qirat.

From Muslim Number 2062:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying: He who attends the funeral till the prayer is offered for (the dead), for him is the reward of one qirat, and he who attends (and stays) till he is buried, for him is the reward of two qirats. It was said: What are the qirats? He said: They are equivalent to two huge mountains. Two other narrators added: Ibn 'Umar used to pray and then depart (without waiting for the burial of the dead). When the tradition of Abu Huraira reached him, he said:" We have lost many qirats."

COMMENT

Having a dog as a pet is prohibited in Islam. In fact, if a Muslim keeps a dog as a pet God will take away some heavenly reward for his good deeds! Notice that the amount taken away changed from one to two qirats.

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4) DOGS ANNULLING PRAYER

From Bukhari Vol. 1, #490

Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""

From Muslim Number 1032

Abu Dharr reported: The Messenger of 'Allah said: When any one of you stands for prayer and there is a thing before him equal to the back of the saddle that covers him and in case there is not before him (a thing) equal to the back of the saddle, his prayer would be cut off by (passing of an) ass, woman, and black Dog. I said: O Abu Dharr, what feature is there in a black dog which distinguish it from the red dog and the yellow dog? He said: O, son of my brother, I asked the Messenger of Allah as you are asking me, and he said: The black dog is a devil.

From Abu Dawud Number 0704:

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

Ikrimah reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas, saying: I think the Apostle of Allah said: When one of you prays without a sutrah, a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cut off his prayer, but it will suffice if they pass in front of him at a distance of over a stone's throw.

COMMENT

These hadith state that if a dog passes in front of people praying it annuls their prayer. Annul means, "to reduce to nothing", or "to make ineffective or inoperative". If a group of people are praying and a dog walks in-between them and the Kaba (in Mecca), then their prayer is made null and void.

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5) DOGS STOP THE ANGELS

From Bukhari Vol. 4, #448

Narrated Abu Talha: "I heard Allah's Apostle saying; "Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal).""

From Bukhari Vol. 7, #843

Narrated Salim's father: "Once Gabriel promised to visit the Prophet but he delayed and the Prophet got worried about that. At last he came out and found Gabriel and complained to him of his grief (for his delay). Gabriel said to him, "We do not enter a place in which there is a picture or a dog.""

From Muslim, #5276:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying: Angels do not accompany the travelers who have with them a dog and a bell.

From Muslim, #5279:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger as saying: "The bell is the musical instrument of Satan."

COMMENT

The story behind these hadith was mentioned earlier. A little puppy stopped an angel from entering the house because it was "unclean". Note that angels do not enter a place with a dog, or accompany people who travel with a dog.

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THE TOMES

The tomes also details the same aspects found in the traditions. We’ll start with the Reliance of the Traveler[4] which is a compendium of Shafi’i law.

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